Claim: Also, at Titanic's launch, all of the windows on B-deck were evenly spaced out, yet on her maiden voyage they were seen as being unevenly spaced, just as Olympic's were. There were closer ships that would be more feasible. Also it must be noted that Titanic's dining room was However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. So if indeed it was part of some pre-arranged 'rescue' it completely failed in its purpose. Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets 12 said that the Frenchman jumped in before the boat was lowered, indicating that he did jump from the boat deck into the boat. something else, in this case an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. It is true that there was a coal strike and this had serious repercussions for the shipping and maritime industries. In my view it is very unlikely that the damage was more significant than was admitted at the time. The Britannic, when launched, had 16 portholes, consistent with the later port side configuration of the Titanic and the Olympic. 401: Titanic's propeller is on Olympic Early on, she was broadly running level with Olympics EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. In a similarly themed false claim, it is also stated that "when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in 1935 (arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th 1935 to be stripped and broken down) part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK. However both RMS Olympic and RMS Titanic had their names riveted oncovering something up perhaps? - Lookout Reginald Lee at the British Inquiry (Day 4) ice " fall inboard. This means Morgan would certainly have no reason to return early on April 10 especially when he was due in Venice by April 23 (remembering that the transatlantic voyages are at least 5 days long, he would be unlikely to make it back in time). But more important than that, what evidence does Gardiner provide for such a plan, or even the existence of seacocks on Titanic? Birma (70 miles) Russian East Asiatic Company Eastbound, New York-Rotterdam-Libau Secondly, the angle and lighting conditions are very different from the other images, so it is not a fair comparison. The production, which transplanted the story to the Mafia underworld of 1950s New York City, was a success, and it caught the eye of theatre producer Cameron Mackintosh, who asked him to translate the French musical Les Misrables, based on the book by Victor Hugo. As Titanic had a private promenade behind it the fireplace was moved to the "forward" wall this can be also seen on photographs taken by the press on board Titanic on April 10th 1912 a few hours before her departure and also today in the wreck.". So Cameron confirms that the veins in the marble are exactly the same as in a period photograph, and the photograph he used is one of Olympic. 46. by Burgess alone, with no collaboration from other eyewitnesses. Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. As if somehow to counteract this fact, it has then been alleged that 'Titanic's insurance was increased by J. P. Morgan from $5 million to $12.5 million 5 days before her fateful journey'. Even if that simple fact is not enough, the other alleged details regarding the Californian are being misrepresented. 2. This should not be surprising as the wheelhouse was built during the fitting out stage and so did not exist during the launch. The fireplace filmed in 1995 and which partly was shown in the "Titanic" movie at the beginning were actually the fireplace of sitting room B 51 which was occupied by Mrs. Cardeza and her son. They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. While there is some slight confusion over which ship he is referring to "coming from Belfast to Southampton" there is certainly no evidence here of trying to conceal the identity of the two ships. James J. Fenton, MD, is a pulmonologist at National Jewish Health. It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. Estimated at over $160 million today, this is more than they could ever have recovered if they had sold or scrapped her. Firstly, it must be considered that these images were first released in 2012 and have been examined in minute detail by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and historians since then, so why has it taken 7 years for this to have been spotted, if it is indeed unusual? This was because Olympic's patched-up hull could not take any long periods of high speed. Above left: Olympic taken when the vessel was in the Thompson Graving Dock in 1911, allegedly shows her to have had a vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe. Compare the two videos below -one is the real footage of the Titanic name on the wreck, one is fake. If they were interchangeable why would there be a number on it? Thirdly, the description "numerous" is very misleading. Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. Claim: While the wheelhouse of the Olympic was allegedly constructed in a bow fronted fashion, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship. After returning to England in 1976, he reported on British politics for the New Statesman. To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the 34. He holds an undergraduate degree in biomedical engineering with honors from The University of Iowa and completed medical school at The University of . In both cases Gardiner made this claim up! Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. Able Bodied Seaman Frederick Clench who was in lifeboat No. (Click to enlarge). Dr. Fenton is in the Division of Pulmonary, Critical Care and Sleep Medicine. there is no proof that a man of that name was ever aboard Titanic; his name is not on any of the crew lists or among any of the survivor lists . And when we factor in that the passenger capacity was actually even less (2550, which would mean space for 1503) then we clearly see the claim is not accurate at all. recovered from the wreck but, although in excellent condition, there was no There is nothing here that reveals a 'switch'. Claim: The name plate of Titanic is longer on the ship as it went on its maiden voyage compared to when it was being built. Does it reveal evidence of suspicious or unusual damage? It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds[sic] of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight [sic] of the Titanic. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position and would never get a job when they got out. He was awarded the Queens Gold Medal for Poetry in 2007 and won the PEN Pinter Prize in 2015. Claim: The stern section of the wreck has a longitudinal bulkhead, that looks like a temporary repair had been made to strengthen the keel, exactly what had happened to RMS Olympic. There are three key points regarding this claim: 1. It came from a mold and so there should be no surprise they are exactly the same, that is what you expect from faux marble. In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. Survivor Lawrence Beesley wrote about men in the smoking room sighting the iceberg in his book, "The Loss of the SS Titanic": "One of them had seen through the windows an iceberg go by towering above the decks. Clutch my hand. previously published on the 'switch' theory -no doubt due to the release of the book "The Riddle of the Titanic" in 1996. Due to the lack of media coverage This was the result of a difference in the coal consumption and the emptied coal bunker aft of BR 6 and forward of BR 5The coal bunker was on the starboard side which was emptied. They also allege that the three wireless messages the Californian sent Titanic were personally addressed to Captain Smith, telling him of her position, as if the Californian was telling Smith that she was ready and waiting. 16. Difference in number of Titanic's portholes It makes complete sense that the local Belfast runners did not sign up for a transatlantic maiden voyage that they were not experienced or interested in doing (losing all the local jobs they were used to) when local Southampton crew were used to such "long-haul" trips. For those who have read this website, they will realise that there is certainly no evidence of a 'switch', all the claims have been exposed to reveal nothing but misinformation or fiction and most importantly that there is conclusive evidence to prove that it is Titanic that sank. 39. It was longer as it had to cover up the word Olympic that occupied more space. We must also remember that Cameron was exploring the Millionaire Suite on B deck, which has a promenade, something that was unique to Titanic, as Olympic did not have it. Since they both essentially had the same dimensions, the difference is simply due to revised interior configurations Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 4. to Gallatin TN (Pop. Linoleum flooring covered with carpets In the documentary James Cameron explains: These rooms, they were called the Millionaire's Suites, we went into the one that was reserved for J.P. Morgan. Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. Difference in tonnage 7. Their error is simple: actually Titanic would have been the same tonnage as Olympic i.e. The 1,496 people are believed to have died when the Titanic went down. Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". In summary Gardiner's allegations that Titanic was in fact a damaged Olympic struggling to maintain speed does not add up, especially when you consider that he alleges A Garden from a Hundred Packets of Seed (2001) inventoried some of Fentons favourite plants and his philosophy on how they should be planted. Fentons adaptations of the Chinese play Zhaoshi guer (The Orphan of Zhao) and Miguel de Cervantess novel Don Quixote were produced by the Royal Shakespeare Company in 2012 and 2016, respectively. - Able Bodied Seaman Edward John Buley also reported a couple of tons of block ice (British Inquiry (Day 16). He has worked as political journalist, drama critic, book reviewer, war correspondent, foreign correspondent and columnist. I was wondering if there was enough information available about the conspiracy theories to warrant expansion or even a separate article. So in fact rather than proving a 'switch,' exploration of this suite only confirms that it is indeed Titanic that sank. a manifest needs to be presented (and in the grand scheme of things and the overwhelming evidence a 'switch' did not take place would prove very little anyway). He had called Photographs taken of Titanic leaving Southampton also reveal a slight port list. Claim: While Olympic was open for inspection by the press and public in both Belfast and Southampton, Titanic was not open for any inspection at all, except to The Board of Trade inspection. Titanic prior to her departure on her maiden voyage. Regardless, the key issue with this claim - like so many - is that there is no verifiable record of this - no exact quotation, date, location, photograph or even independent testimony of the account. About James Fenton. Far from the wisdom of the brain. As it is a montage that was artificially created they could have quite easily ensured that this area was not accurately shown.? The second photograph is of Titanic, while still being fitted out in 1911, which shows no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. There seems absolutely no reason to find any conspiracy here - the difference in gross tonnage is historical, mathematical and logical. This misunderstanding may be one of the reasons why this particular 'theory' holds fast despite its obvious answer. THERE IS NO MORE THEORY. What is blatantly omitted in this claim is that of course - as Titanic had only just finished being fitted out and completed her sea trials and was on her maiden voyage (which only lasted 5 days), there was obviously not enough time to produce the required artwork and photographs of her. So there is nothing surprising with the fact that an iceberg caused enough damage to the starboard side (not bottom) of the hull so as to breach watertight compartments that eventually led to its sinking. But this is not due to it being the Olympic. Californian was not expecting rockets, but a rendezvous The fields are mined and the moon is bright. One issue with this theory is that After a million men had walked out for 37 days the government intervened and ended the strike by passing a minimum wage law. Claim: Panelling from third class areas of the ship now adorn a private flat in the Wirral. A statement supported by the attraction of more than 4,000 jobs and $1.4 B in Cap Ex. Claim: Olympic was fitted with Titanics propeller. By the time Titanic's maiden voyage came along Olympic had been operating for a year. A post disaster image of Olympic shows the plating joint has disappeared, revealing she is in fact Titanic. - Coming from Belfast to Southampton. They also question why on the night of the collision the captain of the Californian decided to sleep fully clothed on a five and a half foot couch in the chart room and ordered that her boilers be kept fired up and the engines on standby. 40. (Click image to see full photograph). According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. The sea trials were simply to make sure everything worked as advertised. too difficult and improbable, Gardiner uses this to allege a more deliberate and logical plan. form near me in the afternoon and had questioned the library steward how he should declare his patent) said, "Well, I am accustomed to estimating distances and I put it at the cast iron fireplace with its veined marble surround to still be in place. Titanic 's insurance was increased 5 days before sailing 2. The number proves that 1. the propellers could and would not be swapped and 2. that it is Titanic. Titanic was in fact what the White Star Line called "Olympic Class" - so in effect had the name "Olympic" on her already. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to The collision with an The branches creak and the shadows leap. Fenton, F. -Saloon steward Ferrary, Auto -Trimmer Ferris, W. -Leading fireman . Ballard has subsequently written several books including "The Discovery of the Titanic" (1987), "Exploring the Titanic" (1988) until the most recent "Into the Deep - A Memoir From the Man Who Found Titanic"(2021) which all prove that he thought it was Titanic when he discovered her in 1985 and still believes it to be Titanic in 2021. Titanic was not open for the press and public inspection Paddy also said Linoleum flooring covered with carpets, 34. seemingly confuses the two in name. Without evidential support it is merely another concocted claim. (Click to enlarge). 100 cubic feet equals 1 "ton" of internal volume. 2)J.P. Morgan had the power to influence governments, not least the British Government due to aid in the Crimean War. It is likely connected with the false claim that the name Olympic was allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck -proven to be false in point no.38 here. While every effort has been made to follow citation style rules, there may be some discrepancies. 1852) and Susannah Haryott (b. Steve Hall and Bruce Beveridge investigated this account in their book It must be noted that the Official Secrets Act of 1911 was specifically concerned with espionage that would benefit enemy military use. But this should not misconstrued as anything unusual, but common practice for a company which suddenly comes under media scrutiny and wants to maintain First of all, here is the 'meme' by a James Colmer that accompanies this claim: Anyone vaguely familiar with Titanic will immediately spot the critical flaw in this 'switch' meme. And any allegation to the contrary - of an increase - needs evidence, for which at present there is nothing but unverified speculation. Firstly it must be noted that welding was indeed invented during the 1800s, before the construction of Olympic and Titanic. Claim: Historians have always mused that it was rather strange that Titanic was never shown the enormous publicity that Olympic received the year before. Stick to the path. Another set of poems was published by Fullers press as the broadsheet Put Thou Thy Tears into My Bottle (1969). This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. Even if the insurance would not pay out the $750,000, IMM If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational Titanic's bulkheads were intentionally deficient The highly imaginative claim that the Cunard ship the Carpathia was a planned rescue ship collapses not only as it is wholey without evidence, but the numbers are inaccurate and any logic absent. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. Titanic or Olympic: Which Ship Sank? Titanic, although only just superceding her sister in size, was no longer big news and so the public and media were not as interested in her maiden voyage as that of her sister. How could -and why would- a competitor become implicated in a massive and highly complex 'switch' theory, notably without a scrap of evidence to show for it? As in the previous points, we know that damage to the Olympic did not include a 'warped keel'. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. Firstly, Ismay's wife and children did not cancel at the last moment. The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. This is his testimony: I understand it has been stated that the ship was going at full speed. Claim: Photographs taken of Titanic at Southampton shortly before her maiden voyage show a large area of discoloured plating, as if it had been newly painted with paint that did not quite match the original, in the same location as Olympic's hull was damaged by HMS Hawke. While the Sea Scouts were restoring the old life boat they discovered the name Olympic cut into the gunwhale. Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. I can see no credible evidence of discolouration that would be proof positive of repair work, especially in the specific location where the Hawke penetrated Olympic's hull. These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the windows on B-deck -which should not be surprising as two private verandahs and suites were added to this section of the ship after its launch. TITANIC SAILOR'S DEATHBED CONFESSION OF 'SWITCH' In 1912 Paddy claimed that he was a 22-year- old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. Thomas Newman, Per l'obra Skyfall (2013) Steven Price, Per l'obra Gravity (2014) Alexandre Desplat, Per l'obra The Grand Budapest Hotel (2015) El BAFTA a la millor msica s un premi que atorga la BAFTA ( British Academy of Film and Television Arts) en una cerimnia anual, en reconeixement a la millor banda sonora . I think it is impossible that the Olympics keel was damaged in the collision, as Robin Gardiner speculates in his 1998 book Titanic: The Ship That Never Sank? ', When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean. Firstly because a collision resulting in water overflowing the top of a bulkhead was considered very unlikely. that the carpet was to hide "12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface"? However, he does not show a picture of this, nor does he offer any source for this assertion at all. between eighty and ninety feet.". Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. Goodwin Antiques 295 $361.88 345.06 Silver Enamelled Bracelet Recess Antiques 50.00 $61.34 58.49 Silver Blade Fruit Knife . Researchers Bill Sauder and Parks Stephenson have come to the conclusion that in fact the dining room was not carpeted. 35. In Titanic's case, it was likely due to improper ballasting--too much on the port side or too little on the starboard. the game. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational, 12. the boats were returned to England and reused, however boat no.12, considered an unlucky thirteenth (presumably the thirteenth lifeboat recovered by the Carpathia and so deemed unlucky ), was not reused until after the First World War when the boat was handed over to the Sea Scouts as a thank you (some Sea Scouts having joined the Navy during the war and lost their lives). For a company that has miraculously been able to switch ships including hundreds of thousands of numbers on the back of wooden panels, without anyone knowing, this seems a rather farfetched and unlikely plan. The proceeds financed his journey that year to Cambodia, where he reported on the Khmer Rouge, and then to Vietnam, where he witnessed the fall of Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) in April 1975. the newspaper Northern Star that was published on the 31 July 1996. ships the crows nest bell seldom has any writing on it.". Could it be There is not one occasion in which he of the surviving crew. Some also claim that the reason some crew did not sign up was specifically because 'the only thing that could not be made to look new were the ship's boilers, having already been used for 12 months on Olympic before the switch' and noticing this on the Belfast to Southampton crossing they decided to 'get off' at Southampton. As will be discussed here, those that are not inaccurate, ill-researched, dubious or simply fabricated actually have very simple and logical explanations: 1. (for more information see here). Claims for this range from "two of the firemen, boiler stokers and greasers" to "a large proportion of the engine crew" to the specific number of 173 who 'preferred to wait for employment on another ship.' 41. Actually there were only 6 within a 140 mile radius. According to Bruce Ismay's testimony before the British Wreck Commission they planned to increase 33. 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