Everything you say is right on and I promise you are going to come out of this better, smarter, tougher, wiser, more resilient, hubby not so much Im afraid. So there is new info here the mess he created between his parents and you. He can go do his sport and never even needs to let me when he will be back. Since when? First five times I was not. DDay was 3/19/2011 by 4/14/2011 I was well into NC with him and moving forward with a divorce as I knew the affair was still going on much to his denial. We are all adults here. Business would be nothing without my H. What I do is only 4 hours of work a week (i,e, nothing). I would have difficulty getting past that comment. Theres a whole lot more to you than what you are currently showing, TryingHard. This is all him right now. H agreed it very well could. Why do people flee from the crown, what can be advised in this case. Find someone better! And so it goes. You must force yourself to get sleep. Didnt care what happened to him. I need the honest answers. I hope to emerge from the nightmare but it is going to be somewhat slow as in all cases. And that last statement is just plain and utter bullshit that can be parsed later. It doesnt sound like he could commit to his favorite flavor of ice cream. Satori Short answer YES to all the above. I wondered as SI and TH said whether a death of a person is more straight forward in a way. So unfairpainful. At home I gathered his clothes and shoes and threw them on the driveway. The masks slip and reality sets in. I cant tell you what to do. It is a horrible feeling, I can relate. The harsh truth for me is, he left under a false pretext giving me no notice and no explanation but regardless he didnt give me a backward glance. Good for you!!!! My hs lawyer was a bull dog lawyer back in the day. Our marriage wasnt perfect but I was completely blindsided by her announcement. Then he told me that he thought a good friend of ours would ask me out immediately. Im not sure if thats true for everyone but it has been for me. Yep hes taking his cues from the cheaters handbook it sounds like. But Im a bit for what TFW added it wasnt like she told me she was extremely disappointed with him but in fairness she may well have said it to him. There are no guarantees in this and thats a difficult feeling. This starts to make the shit realllly real for them. She has you, I assume your childrens daddy, her home intact and her lover. Such women might also feel that they are not good enough for their partner or that they are bound to let their partner down. (I hate her btw). But how to counter the false narrative of Hs / PILs presumed alleged false narrative regarding the alleged mistreatment by me of the poor hard done by LiarCheaterSadistGoldenChild H? But certainly not if its agaunst your layers recommendations. LOL (black humor). Everything you say about your H sounds exactly the same!! As far as my own actions are concerned, I do feel Im doing the best I can. Then I texted him, to ask him why he was calling me. As others have stated, so sorry you are going through this. I hope your H at least has one sane rational person in his life. Later that day, Wilbanks called Mason from a pay phone and told him that she had been kidnapped, but had just been released. Whatever happened to honesty? But if I brought anything up, in relation to the same incident, it was nothing. So I left things very neutral with MIL. Nothing makes any sense but one thing is certain: in Hs mind, its all about his future financial comfort and happiness. Cant take it back. The tears seem to flow freely throughout this crap. Yet, sooo much havoc. He is deflectingeffectively gave no concessions as to Hs cheating. Yes, we are together. Lots of plants get colorful foliage. Its a bitter pill to swallow when you come to terms that we hooked our wagons up with a narcissist or sociopath. We still have a lot to sort out, but Im sure after H has visited OW and sealed the deal over the holidays, he will come back fully charged with testosterone, ego-stroked and spoiling for a fight. he says A is over but wont prove it or show any solid proof to you I warned him I was worried it was getting too high (consumption of alcohol.) On another note I discovered H has a secret phone before I flew out. So who I was 15 years ago when I met my H is nowhere the same in terms of my maturity and understanding of people. Runaway Bride Syndrome & The Hidden Treasures. I also cant believe she actually knew he was having an affair. Im ready for whatever now. The next day or two he would change his mind and beg to come back. Was just spinning out there for a while. I believe that they are narcissistic, because the have Aspergers. Now its not even about the A nor his bad treatment of me during it, its all about my shortcomings. Im done throwing it. For me at least, laughter is the best medicine. I would but I cant. And refused to say why. At first, Clarisse in The Castle of Cagliostro is a Runaway Fianc when she runs away from her Arranged Marriage (presumably during dress rehearsal). As you read I finally went on a trip to California. I did tell him to go be with her if thats what he really wanted but instead he said he wanted our M but did nothing to focus on it choosing to mourn the end of the A ((until it resumed a few weeks later)). I also feel a few things running concurrently with the external calm-groundedness: paranoid, insecure, emotional, crazy, irritated, abandoned, frustrated, discarded, tired, hyoer vigilant, tired again, self-questioning, emotional again, self-blaming, guilty, embarassed, angry, rejected, ugly, pathetic, scared, hopeful, angry again, annoyed, insulted, inconsolable, sarcastic, bitter, hysterically unbonded, furious, ugly again, sad, inertia, unhinged, failure, humiliated, moody, vengeful, half-hearted, stupid, blind, ambushed, angry again, teary, annihilated, mute, oppressed, manipulated, directionless, despairing, crazy again, cynical, hopeless, lost, scared again, fearful, freaked out, split, disbelief, verbose, desperate, unstable, shunned, clueless, tired again, highly strung, used, repressed, undignified, abandoned again, incensed, shocked, exposed, analytical, devastated, lethargic, devalued, griefstricken, failure again, hopeless, dejected, critical, spun out, embarassed, shunned again, upset, outraged, worthless, frustrated again . What do you do years later with that info??? Everything I have read says that in most Runaway H scenarios, a mood or depressive disorder is underpinning it. It took me about 5 weeks to suss out his real intentions tho. H keeps saying I dont know what to do. and this: I dont know where to start.. Not that they didnt help but this site kept me going. We have a big job right now. My name is plainly stated on my comment. At this time, everyone becomes superstitious. Then make a few payments. They jump into it both physically and emotionally and whole heartedly. Of course H blames you. If I cant get any sign(s) that hes willing to work on our M, then whats the point of me being agreeable? Re Christmas and the holidays. I told her that so maybe she can no longer play that card. H: what you mean getting back together? *smh* To the wider friends and in-laws: part of the shame stems from the fact that the runaways seem very adept at putting out the smear campaign that says a BS was controlling and abusive and that theyd been soooo unhappy. extramarital affairs. He always came home when I texted him that dinner was ready. Scroll past. So when we would get together the conversation would go to divorce and how we could divorce amicably. I wouldnt try to keep it short. You are not in this alone. But that time allowed me to get myself in order to do battle. She betrayed me. D-day 2 of finally discovering the A was June 2015. (I pointed out that his A is the issue x 1 million. Just dont take what he says literally right now. But we all understand the pain and agony of it all. If Ive helped ONE person here then my time spent here has been worthwhile. Check out our runaway bride selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. What has worked and NOT worked for ME. I have had a LOT to say to him to correct that crap. You could say my extreme grooming and personal shopper assisted plan is the best Ive had for a while. I dont think she will ever understand how badly it hurt me. Satori-I think the get over it mentality is the worst (at least in many cases) with the CS. If Im good? Plus theres a lot to digest here with all the info being given. Its like agame for them. Try not to let it. Oh gawwwwwd I remember that damn anxiety and heart beating out of my chest in the middle of the night like I was running a race!!! Through tears, H said he needed ten minutes. It happens. You know we can put on our toughie pants and gear up for war all we need to, but the fact remains we are losing our other half. Pigs. Unlike you, my H is only feeling entitled. Im sure you are right with your prediction, but the revisionist history is what is upsetting the most and that would be a huge stumbling block to any future R. But I love the honesty and rawness of TH too. It hurts I know but it could be a huge blessing in disguise. Oh and I wanted to ask if it was Ok to wish could OW have some sort of situation occur where her arms are pinned down due to IV drip so no phone use possible after being hit by local bus or handy equivalent. Narcissism is selfishness in its purest form. No one can understand the trauma of having your spouse walk in the door and say I want a Divorce unless it has happened to them. Satori should keep quiet and not open her too-smart-for-her-own-damn-good-mouth. Yes he was gone for 3 months. Terrified there was nothing to look forward to because I could only see life getting worse from there on out. No. He doesnt want to feel anything, he once told me he would wish he was dead if he got his feelings back. It just meant so much. Why then, such a sad sausage? conflicts over family responsibilities. Let him know any kind of discussion toward possible reconciliation is on the table for a while, but nothing legal. He hired her one month later after meeting her/ A started two months later. He started calling me darling and babe again!!! As TFW says, I very much understand it has to be his idea for R. Its why I knocked back the half-hearted offer for MC the other day and he changed his mind less than 24 hours later anyway so Im glad I did not take him seriously. She really lost her case with me there. It has NOTHING to do with you. Yes, theres a lot of similarities with HS crap here in some latest discussions. No hope for recovery. I agree, I hope Satori continues to post. Life will improve and get better b/c you wont have to deal with him and his issues and his lying and poor choices. Me: Its not up to me to tell you, how should I know? So you did the right thing not taking her bait. Youve done everything right with the exception of getting a good therapist. Everyone here is so kind to offer you constructive advice. Apparently, I was deemed codependent also and I had suffered from bouts of general anxiety. (Girl): If you drop me off, I'll get the tickets (Guy): OK, but don't runaway bride me like you did last month. No,MLC is not a recognized medical syndrome but that doesnt mean it doesnt have a medical cause. Of course he wants out, especially if you are in debt. Lol. Smart girl. Grief over the loss of a marriage or relationship I believe is more intense. But there were no options left and D was the only solution. My anxiety has hugely reduced, not entirely gone (I suspect it will never fully go) however Im not dealing with the very worst of it on a 24-7 basis. Just wow. My managers were in the vicinity, so I decided to delay my response. I guess I dont really understand your question. He accepted but then he burst into tears on the phone. Thanks to your consistently uplifting replies to me, I am in a way better place than I was or would have been. Get a massage or a pedi/mani, go to a show but get out of the house. . And yes, the not calling thing. It makes them feel good to help you. The long-term investment involved in a serious, committed relationship often makes people more vulnerablethey are terrified that the relationship might fail and leave them stranded or badly hurt. My H actually wrote in an email to the OW that I was planning for the D. He saw me getting docs together one time. Shes never inner very much. I offered every kind of support you can imagine. Trying Hard: I take no comfort in what my wife did based on a MLC or just simple selfishness. The article on grief TH posted for you, says it all. Our family rules. Ok youve done you job with regards to your h well being. I dont know what else you can do exceot remain NC to protect yourself. No one works well without sleep. Its a viper pit. I bet almost every BS has heard this. The other blogs etc that Ive seen are sites contain good info, some are forums but if youre not 100% sure then they can seem overwhelming. He was being very nice and we were even intimate. Maybe its just to see how much time he has left before the point of no return kicks in and he has to finally decide what he is doing. Period. Theyre hurting, too. Often, even the seeming opportunity to cheat was not even there. What your spouse chose to do was cruel and it does not reflect on you as a person. Satori. And I dont believe your MILs mission was to tell you there would be no R. Im sure her son explained he was scared to or wasnt sure he wanted to. And that damage is permanent. Hes fine. No BS should have to hear that crap. I am laser-focused on sorting out the financial side so that at least is more stable. I was so concerned about not upsetting the little ones I had to push everything down for several hours. I even told him Im not going down with your ship. And Youre making choices, but they are your choices alone.. When the invitation cards were printed and my wedding dress bought, I started questioning my decision (to get married). but Im here and shes not. You dont have to have all the answers, right now. We dont like the same books or movies or food etc. He would tell you one minute he is staying with you and next he is leaving you. Just kept my wits about me b/c I knew it would get better. Yes you do have a long road ahead of you but remember it was his behavior that was Less than, not yours. And now that I know this can happen. I hear you Puzzled. Especially since the affair had been going on for almost 4 years!!! Bridal Store Dublin It has to be THEIR idea. Betrayed Spouses often look back at D-day and think of all the things they did wrong and how they could have handled it differently but they are in SHOCK for heaven sake. I am supported by very loving family members who call me daily even though some live in other countries. and/ or (b) she is trying to look supportive to me to try and get info from me. If she found herself in a group where people were swearing, gossiping, or doing other things she felt were distasteful, she either got up and left the group or said nothing at all. he tries to avoid seeing you when he can Oh hell no!! Traveled And I was there pouring my heart out to her hysterically crying worried about what was going on for my then supposedly sick and clearly fucked up H (we know why now). You have to ignore it and let your lawyer do your talking. We are all to anxious to just get over it. Then he would come back next day saying I dont want a D please reconsider. Its all a smokescreen to hide their betrayal. Again! Focus on you and your well-being. Did you both keep your jobs? I am now looking at my role, NOT so I can fix H (only H can fix himself ????) Until I had to tell them we were having problems just to warn them of a possible D. My younger child even adked if there was another woman involved. Lol. When I arrived home and demanded the whereabouts of HER phone, she said it was in her purse, whilst she played with Facebook. Im intelligent (according to my Dad this was the ONLY positive thing my FIL said about me LOL) so I will be fine in the case of D and should just go and get a job. I just think that it is hard to face the inevitable. ), healing (learning) from ancestors mistakes. Thank goodness for your calm wisdom. runaway bride (plural runaway brides) A bride-to-be who runs away from a wedding shortly before the ceremony, often due to so-called cold feet. My family was around at the time of her visit, so basically she got a warm if measured reception by other family members. So you cant sue a spouse for adultery but it can come in to the facts of the case. SI. TFW has a great idea. I totally relate to your story. I understand it must be very hard when a son does this sort of stuff. Satori Thanks theFirstWife & ShiftingImpressions. No suspicion just concern and care. As the police pulled up they asked me what I was doing. Because at any time he can CHOOSE to do the right thing. Your h has done this. Satori there is no magic answer ball. And then possible about-face / asking for forgiveness. I have been NC and ignoring his comms for 5 days. He made the mess and one way or another one if the relationships was going to end. Was she a great mom and wife? This guy E used to bring his own perfectly packed lunch every day and was always hard working punctual etc. All kidding aside, theres still hope if you want it. Overall good, possibly life saving. Dont forget your own power. Its similar to when I went NC and just unavailable. Doesnt answer any WhatApp message, doesnt answer any call. As I read your story it makes me shudder how ugly my own situation could have become if my husband had chosen the path of continuing contact with the OW. This reveals their true character. I told him next month after school started for kids we should have a shared family Google calendar. And I dont really consider that censoring her as such. We cannot rush it or go around it. Call it Midlife crisis or Affair Fog or both or whatever you want. She has been distant the whole time showing little affection and behavior that she loves me. Twenty-nine-year-old Priya Gupta was to be married this month in an expensive and lavish wedding in Mumbai. I was done being nice. Almost 4 months was enough for me. My h was loathe to put anything in writing for many reasons. Each time, that I kind of got my head around (or tried to get my head around) one aspect of the situation another new piece of critical info would land and further obliterate me. Because of this, they do not communicate their feelings to their spouse. Next, you will get over it when youre damned good, well, and ready. My spiritual coach also advised a casual phone call. Anyway, off my soapbox. You know, trying to be all calm and not play into the narrative of abusive controlling and cray cray wife that Im pretty sure he is spinning since neither of my parents in law have contacted me. You are a champion ShiftingImpressions. Its Friday night here, and you know what? So while my responses to them will be as per TryingHards Im fine to them all now, I already poisoned the well. Thank you for indulging me but just putting it into a post and getting your feedback is keeping me sane. I know I cannot change my ex but I can pray for her. I can only tell you my personal experience. I must not get caught up in being the victim and pity. Anyway during that time we talked a lot and I encouraged D. I told him if he didnt want to stay faithful to her then D but not cheat!! They are believing all of his garbage that he is spewing out. It is associated with an anxious and suspicious nature, when she (he), due to personal and social reasons, is afraid to marry. Negative beliefs about marriage can really change. Thanks so much for your kind words TheFirstWife. In fact he can do whatever he wants and we will never impose consequences on him! I have seen a few things in some friends relationships as you describe. Everybody tries to find the answers to why. No more buying the lies. Didnt want to take any responsibility for any part of the mess he created, the position he put himself in and therefore me. Will it be easy? Trying Hard Wat ass de runaway Braut Syndrom, d'Psychologie vu senger Manifestatioun bei Fraen a Mnner. Until I found my anger. Why don't these. NEVER. I mean how appropriate was that? First off I am happy to hear your brother is looking after you and making plans for a trip for you. Please keep me and my family in yours as well. And I think you yourself added that there were two people trying to destroy the M and two people aiming to get what they can out of the business etc namely my H and OW. My H is full of self pity as we have all noted here, but its funny ( just as you were saying as per the Queen of Sheba etc) they should be happy now right? The damage is done. Pay phones, fax line at the office and in person. Im not sure how long you been with your husband or if kids are involved. I think you must be stronger than me. He says our M is finished and he used the D word himself in the casual meeting but there is no way to know for sure where his head is at in any way. It seems many CS do that to justify the A. But if I cant get in to a good one that is covered by my health insurance here, Im thinking about going to US / UK to see family just to get a break. The power is with you. All of it. Regardless, its the supportive message that is important and that is what you get here, support. He started shouting at me all these figures and things that he had decided were in my advantage. Thats interesting. Anxiety goes hand in hand with codependency. Ok hes recognizing. . Yes, I hope he is not a monster too. How couldnt she simply look at her daughter and say youre breaking your vows and destroying your life? Basically the second he was out the door, he was 100% done, no explanation given no interest nor regard for me or my wellbeing just nothing. Which I may just tell now that the OW is dead and cant press charges against me. And spoiled brats will play the martyr as often as they can or any other card they have up their sleeve. Keep breathing and focus on you. TFW, I dont know how you were able to be civil to your Hs. No other way to put things. . Once the papers are signed I will have some sort of comfort and order going forward. You have suffered a trauma and did what you needed to do to start healing. We have all gone through the betrayal and garbage of a cheating spouse. But great point you made below about realizing how short life can be and trying to squash our anger & resentment. Thats precious. He needs to snap the hell out of that if he doesnt want to be looking on the other side of a courtroom!! What a fool. CA. Memes are not proprietary I dont believe and they are everywhere. Seeing that same anger and rage in others going though this nightmare was validating and comforting in some strange way. And turns your friends and family against you. There are times in life when people are blinded by runaway spouses. Ive thrown that much rope into Hs black hole or onto his little boat that is adrift. But many of our husbands had no voice of reason speaking in their ears during the affair fog.and they did turn around. Maybe if Id have made him do more stuff like stripping wallpaper he wouldnt have had time or energy to have an affair. At the end of our meeting, H said he wanted to come back and to see you and talk tomorrow afternoon. I have decided this is a tactic. Current mood? Those are his actions and his words. Do something to get your focus on you and your healing. And she knows this too. The first round of holidays was tough on me and my son. I called my son and by now the sun was just coming up. Thanks TH for reminding me I dont need to caretake this situation anymore. Our circle of trust and friends probably gets a little smaller after an affair. We go to MC whom we just saw 3 days ago where my H says he loves me. It is his job to make himself happy or figure out why he is not. They have kept their discontent with the marriage bottled up for years, pretending that everything is fine. Never. Puzzled YES to the crap that was dragged up from the past. Fair warning you might cry your eyes out A LOT. It makes no sense and is so dishonest as to the reality. There is hope. Losing my grip on my emotional composure. Thanks for your good wishes. Read up on the 180 Turnaround. Im not going to blame the fact that my doctors told my sister to give me a couple of ambien and I dont remember how many xanax and then they left me alone. And I doubt anyone else would accept it. Nothing about this affair is neutral or acceptable. I vote go to Italy. It felt manipulative and not genuine. Most maddeningly they will simply look dead in the eyes and with no guilt or shame whatsoever tell you that black is white and up is down. It doesnt matter if its good enough for someone else. The CS has to want it otherwise the A continued with the same OW or the CS eventually finds a new OW. I dont talk to any friends about this This time he didnt say yes, but he didnt say no. He actually pocket dialed me today (on whatsapp) and woke me up in another time zone and then accused me of listening to his boring client meeting! I just wonder what made your H snap like that. DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER IF YOU ARE OFFENDED BY SWEAR WORDS!!!!!!! You have been managing this well. Which essentially means I cant say or do anything right, me existing is the problem. You do. For me there is no feeling of abandonment, I WAS abandoned!! Keep up with the laughing part. Meanwhile, my doctor has given me a 4 week medical certificate for my anxiety etc. But I honestly saw no signs either! She wanted to press charges at the time. Its never what they do and its always our reaction to it. After a few more phone calls, and at about 19:00, it was formally announced that the wedding, which was supposed to begin at 20:30, was canceled. Your in-laws see only one thing: their son is hurting and he has spun the web to get them stuck. I have my black belt in anxiety. You must show him that you are starting to control YOUR life and what happens to YOU. You are fooling yourself if you think that. needs to explain to me why they dont matter. And she did. Thats GOOD. Not age, not FOOs, not success or lack thereof, not flabby tummies or ED. This makes it really easy to see where one is on the spectrum of R D when you put all actions and not just words through that OAR / BED filter. I know it hurts and I am very sorry. Another thing that is different about these situations is that the runaway spouse announces the news during the most seemingly mundane time. I dont know where I would be with all this if I hadnt been able to come here and pour out my pain and listen to all of you do the same. I do have a lawyer. He has too and maybe eating shit sandwiches us just part of life. At this point so much has happened on top of the A. Its a complicated layer cake now. Try later when I get my brain back. Wait I thought he didnt like me anymore? Oh SI Im sorry I made you feel bad. And maybe thats exactly what I should have done instead. Not to her at least. Not interested. Insert Mantra here:[ Sorry Ive gone BLANK ]. He wants to go to a good restaurant. 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