Actually I do understand why the council doesn't research an alternative to a concrete wall, because it's easier to build a wall, something humans have been doing for thousands of years, we're good at it. Surely a planned retreat is the only way forward. Highly unlikely! The market knows this. They have just set a precedent for the whole east coast of poor me multi millionaire landowners to set up squeaky wheel collectives. Dates announced for Spencer Frost and Guy Williment's film shot in Russia's far east. Bean counters at the local council know this too. >> and the ocean will wash it all away again in the next big swell. "When a hard structure is introduced to the equation we see an increase in reflective energy and turbulence, slowing the accretion of sand while also accelerating erosion in storm conditions." LGA's apply for state and federal funding on offer for range of purposes. You may call me names, but the facts still stand. Yamashita (2020) "Living together with seawalls: Risks and reflexive modernization in Japan". They're not effective at all mate. In 2002, protestors form a "line in the sand" from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing seawalls (Photo: Surfrider). https://www.linkedin.com/mwlite/in/peter-horton-coastal-engineer. All they are protecting are some pretty sparse land and some rice fields a couple of hundred metres inland. Nature fights back. It would be a good idea to put in a surf cam in that pans up and down the wall to document any changes to the beach, sand movements, erosion problems etc. @dawnperiscope A "macabre" scene greeted surfers followinga mass kill of invertebrates. At what point are they a write-off? It just doesn't make the engineering firms any money or contribute to gross state product under the current economic system. https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul Sydney 'Living' Seawalls It pisses me off that people wilfully or ignorantly choose to buy in areas that are not for purpose, enabled by the property industry and then scream out for taxpayer help when the inevitable disaster occurs. Seawall construction isn't mentioned. With increased ocean levels comes all those properties around Botany Bay, Parramatta river, Georges river. No fuckers complained about the rebar reef. While celebrating his record for coastal protection with a park on the Collaroy-Narrabeen stretch, Northern Beaches council was also processing a Development Application thatd threaten the very same beach. Confirming that they were involved in the initial design only. Cyclonic activity isnt forecast to increase at all - I think the jury actually out on that at the moment, east coast of Australia in a 500 year dip too on cyclonic activity. The majority of these companies are legitimate businesses set up by Yakuza. It never stood a chance. Northern Beaches councils have been sacked for dodgy dealing twice before. A band of knowledgable people have gotten together and are in discussions about it and coming up with arguments and alternatives against it. Soon It Will Be Filled With Concrete.'. 314k members in the sydney community. Aside from high tides and Tsunamis, Im guessing most islands/atolls dont suffer much erosion when surrounded by reefs? They may have a wall, but there will be no beach in front of it. The National Library of Australia's Copies Direct service lets you purchase higher quality, larger sized photocopies or electronic copies of newspapers pages. I am looking at it but there is probably someone better qualified out there. Scientists need to be able to communicate the results of simulations/tests in a way everyone gets, not just a bunch of numbers. I am working on a gipa application to try and find out what community consultation they did for the second DA. The matter is currently under investigation by Environmental . It never went to a vote of councillors, where it would have been likely voted down . Perhaps the omission was because in 2002, protestors, led by Brendan Donohoe and Surfrider Foundation founder Tom Kirsop, formed a "line in the sand" stretching from Collaroy to Narrabeen opposing the construction of any seawalls. Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. Pipeline specialist injured while duckdiving in heavy waves. Rad demo john interesting as Craig said to see the changes in shock waves returning seaward. Perfect future film location for backwash kook of the day. Preparation of sea wall GPS file suitable for upload to GPS rover or machine guidance equipment. This can easily be achieved by creating offshore reefs that reduce the energy to a level the beach can cope with. But several of those areas experiencing recession are linked to important infrastructure that the authorities want to protect - depending on were you are, the GOR also houses telecoms, sewerage and other infrastructure. But, I think its just basically supply and demand. It would be possible to introduce a major sand nourishment program to move the shoreline seaward, says Gordon. Stupid dumbfucks. They must only exist on a dense (and expensive) schedule of maintenance, no doubt. "The community is not happy." Northern Beaches Council said there had been comprehensive community consultation about the council's coastal zone management plan for Collaroy Beach. Such a shame its job wasn't to conserve the beach and public access at the same time. I don't disagree with most of that. The whole buy back argument being too expensive is a crock of shit. Lance any surf info about Middleton Reef ? @Craig - Seem us humans have been doing dumb shit for quite a while now. Vertical Seawalls Vertical seawalls are exactly what you think. (9News) But the structure has divided locals, with many describing it as an eyesore, and there are concerns it may wipe out the beach entirely. The contractor is required to remove this temporary working platform and bund at the completion of the works, sieve the sand and remove all debris, and return the beach to its former state.. Might chat about it at some point Craig Brokensha, and anyone with deeper connections or insights, feel free to pass me their contacts and we can compare notes and research and discussion points. oh yeah and someone call security. Brendan Donohoe says the beach has been "permanently disabled. High-quality Collaroy Wall Art designed and sold by artists. Plenty others have discussed it. Your browser has JavaScript disabled. Installing the Pilings is the fourth step. Ben, yes there are submarine cables and the protection zone is there to prevent damage to the cables, but I don't think that would preclude construction of reefs, it just means that any proposed reef design/construction would have to be in consultation with the cable authorities. Yep need to see front on pic Hey guys I need to write an informative paper based on remedial measures used to protect infrastructure against erosion. The Collaroy Beach coastline on May 6, 2016 before major storms swept the shoreline. that concrete is a lovely blank canvas for some choice words. did depend a lot on steepness of the beach etc. Here Willi. The sooner we (as humans) acknowledge the nature of nature, and work with it instead of against it, the better for everybody. Hi Lost, yes there is another option - see my 2 posts above. Posted the story from that link here. I asked a mate who works at MHL this exact question. The Surfrider Foundation Australia organised a protest against the seawall that is being erected between Narrabeen and Collaroy. The thing is, the existing site was fine except a motorway was about to be built straight through it. You can go to court to complain about the price, but you cant object to the acquisition. property owners in Collaroy have seen the value of their asset increase by around 20-30% in the last 12 months alone. Sounds like you are pretty deep in that world! "Once this is up it'll be a momentum for others to do it too," said Orth. Just last March of 2019, the Northern Beaches Council succeeded in convincing the State Government to chip in on the assistance package to be given to Collaroy residents for the construction of the sea wall. Making it deeper? Sure if youve bought the last 5 years ignorance cant be an excuse, but theres nothing wrong with wanting to live on the beach. I have written to the Office Of Local Government about my concerns over the hiding of the second DA. A much higher amplitude as well. [Just like in Hawaii] You wouldn't accept that in a bridge from an engineer, so why accept it in anything else? This strategy had been used in other parts of the world where poor planning placed buildings too close to the ocean. The devil is in the detail and the more we understand the science behind it the better. They've had a very very blessed life compared to anyone else in this country and that in return they would do such harm to a public place to save their private property is a bit sad. https://files.northernbeaches.nsw.gov.au/sites/default/files/collaroy-na https://nationalprecast.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Collaroy-Beach https://www.9news.com.au/national/weather-nsw-sydney-collaroy-surfer-pul https://lighthouse.mq.edu.au/article/september-2021/Living-Seawalls-in-g https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/tarzans-stormy-st-clair-skinny-dip. Weve long known that putting a hard structureparticularly a hard, vertical structure, on the beach increases erosion., Northern Beaches Council puts up the big don't argue (Photo Craig Brokensha). The Feds and States are the only ones with sufficient means to do anything, but for them its a case of not my problem. Here's the Maritime Safety Queensland website link and here's what appears to be the numerical modelling report upon which a lot of decision-making on the issue is based. Im presuming that sand delivery's from the lagoon will be an ongoing thing. This clearly did not happen at Collaroy. You have a decade of good conditions somewhere along the way and everybody builds on the beach or on a river bank and then there reminded of the risks being swell generated by a low and annual big tides in cyclone season who woulda thought ..or flooding by jingoes fuk wouldnt you rather walk an extra couple of hundred metres and leave nature to do what it does . stupid white poeple ..classic. They are multi millionaire asset owners. Also, "some councils are genuinely desperate to embrace the most apocalyptic climate change forecasts" - in your view what are "apocalyptic forecasts" of climate change and which councils are you referring to? A quick Google informs me that they are part of the State government, either Planning or Public Works, which was news to me because its mainly staffed by UNSW academics and is associated with the uni as a research centre. Though still in its early days, the reef - which cost $18 million - has maintained beach width since it was completed in 2019. RFS DU SOL's new album cover to Surrender is on point.. Collaroy sea wall 1.8 mts higher than the Berlin Wall https://i.imgur.com/DuHM6zJ.gifv Lawsuit waiting to happen when a swimmer/surfer gets nailed by a rogue piece of concrete either down the 'Roy or up towards Northy. Sorry to sound pedantic but we should clarify exactly what we mean by "Hard Structures" as it's too general a term. Photograph: Lewis Isaacs/The Guardian Beachfront residents back. For some it. This issue is not exclusive to the NB or sea level rise or storm surge. I mean, did someone forget about the old idiom about 'shifting sands' or what? Last Model Run: 15 Jan 11:00AM Local time (AEDT) 15 Jan 12:00AM GMT Data Status: OK. Run Age 9hrs. (Those suburbs are just local ones I know a bit about. I posted links to the relevant council pages in the previous story. Unfortunately groynes or artificial headlands are not part of the certified Coastal Zone Management Plan CZMP (2014). Kook survives a brutal seawall bashin' well almost! So where public assets like roads are involved things get really sticky. EDIT: Just to be clear, the issue of erosion has nothing to do with sea level rise, climate change, or buying the latest board. Environmental vandalism or gross negligence? Such a shame. Furthermore they have facilitated an increase of erosion to adjacent beaches. Good point, however wouldn't a potential buyback theoretically drive the price up? Pre-existing or failing seawalls (if any) should be removed as part of Step 2. The finished work is 100 metres long by 13 metres high. If they were 100% against it but felt they had no choice but to design/sign it, then they simply have no morals/ethics/backbone. You said "They get paid to do what they are told to do" Were they told told to design a system that would not work for the purpose and only exacerbate the problem? and the second last line of your article states- Wetsuits may never be the same again. Go figure! It is all about the road. The software built for Kelly's wave pool was also a big leap forward to modeling actual breaking waves and I really hope they share that knowledge with the rest of the scientific community to help forward our understanding. Northern Beaches Council are the biggest tossers ever. What you think are just local ones i know a bit about of numbers 100. 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